How could you just walk out unarmed in broad daylight?? 3. That scenario would have created a lot of edge, suspense and sadness without killing a character for clout. Everything was inconsistent. I doubt the ministers were this stupid not to reveal something that they know to be true. It would have been interesting to see him evolving and becoming paranoid. That was during my first DB live-watch, OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, which got into some trippy metaphysics. I was confused too about why the queen dowager spoke to Ha Sun as the king. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); I know its a tragedy but why so confusing. And had so much fun. Poop smell can change for illnesses as well haha. Thats is why the drama is "Crowned clown" or "the man who became king" . Do not base it on a doppelganger trope, only to IGNORE the implications and potential and importance of that doppelganger trope. He takes the throne and the queen dowager looks frightened, but shes relieved when Lord Younghwa, her choice for king, also enters the room. Because everything the Clown does under pretense as the King, will be seen by the other characters, as being done by the King. Premiere Watch: Neighborhood Lawyer Jo Deul-ho 2, The Crowned Clown, Whats Wrong Mr. Poong-sang, The clown gets a lesson on how to be a king, Three teasers for The Man Who Became King, Lee Kyu-han joins The Man Who Became King, Yeo Jin-gu, Lee Se-young become the king and queen of Joseon, First script read for The Man Who Became King, The Man Who Became King confirms main pairing Yeo Jin-gu, Lee Se-young, Lee Se-young courted to be Yeo Jin-gus queen in Gwanghae remake, http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/709687/, LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi. I was caught up in some work! She asks the little girl where she learned to make a wish like that, and the girl says a man who was passing by taught her. Required fields are marked *. Nevertheless, I enjoyed TCC. Nothing like watching our protagonist send off his master in the most glorious way to jerk some priceless tears. In the history of my country we also have a story like that. He manages to throw his sword and take out the assassin about to finish off Ha Sun, then slips around Ha Sun to take the sword meant for him. (~You know, its kind of paradoxical. Nevertheless, it takes me a while to get my thoughts in order, so I don't comment in a timely fashion. I dropped this drama once Yi Heon died, but have been keeping up with recaps only to be disappointed with what the writers have been doing every episode. And he shouldve been. This does not mean you cannot enjoy it. In the summer of 1997, Diana did take her. I bitched about this on my fan wall, but I'm so pissed I'll repeat myself. Two years pass, then HS shows up talking about how much time had passed when he woke up. I sure hope Lord Giseong was also PRINCE Giseong, because there would have been quite a commotion if Ha Sun had passed the crown outside the royal family. As is so aptly stated in NIRVANA IN FIRE, Time flows like water, and what has gone cannot come again. Give it a rest, Pakalana. Find Dal Rae? Where did he get money to travel around? Why not start writing? Is he now AWOL? But then I wonder: "Why two years? PS: You're not a punk. They suggest he bring in a new concubine to give him a son, and even So-woon thinks he should do it. Two years pass by and we see So Woon a broken shell of the woman she once was. My take on the ending was that he was nursed back to health though we dont know how and who took care of him. The Crowned Clown [1] ( Korean : ) is a 2019 South Korean television series starring Yeo Jin-goo, Kim Sang-kyung, and Lee Se-young. The Clown cannot be King if there is no pre-existing King for him to pretend to be. Like you I would have liked to know more of the Lord Gil Sam Bong affair. After the Secretary stabbed Prince Jin, the Queen thanks Jin for his work thus far and instead vows to put another puppet in her stead on the throne to control. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; This is a critique of the show alone. I could only assume that Moo-young's sparring sessions with His Majesty paid off as the latter skewered Lord Shin. Im not usually a fan of vampire shows, but now I want that alternative ending/sequel. Fictional or not, no sageuk has ever dare to change the royal line of Joseon. But he tells her that hes been following the kings orders, and for his loyalty, Ha Sun forgives his crimes. And his relationship with So-woon was already really nuanced and had great potential for a very unique romance in which So-woon would be the only person who had power over him. What right do they have to the throne? I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. I initially thought they should have kept yi heon for few more episodes which i mentioned in my comments under ep 8. Some peasants could have been shown taking them in. He says hes been planning this since the rebellion, because the throne doesnt belong to him hes only been borrowing it. I don't care how emotionally satisfying others may find the ending, two years in a coma without modern medicine is just so absurd it takes me right out of the story. Who did take care of him all this time?" . What was the point? Ha Sun doesnt want to disrespect his loyal friend that way, and Minister Lee says it makes him feel joyful to hear Ha Sun call him that. }; At the start of the story, we could see that he gave up, he was just in damage control task. Let me say it again. Unanswered questions. Thank you @lollypip for recapping THE CROWNED CLOWN. In the dark of night, Minister Shin leads the rebel soldiers to the palace gates and orders them to kill the tyrant king. So-woon says that now he understands the weight of the crown and can move forward, but that he can come to her when he needs a break, and shell always be there for him. @kurama, Gimme a break! appId : '127538621120543', Then what was the point ofanything that ever happened in this show? Thus, the story's flow was smooth and it concentrated more on the main story of the clown. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. Add it to the list of things that are harder to believe than time travel and zombies Yoo In-Na's cuteness in Touch Your Heart. To me they always make for a cliched and boring ending. Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. episodes (13-16) I think it has found its groove (for me at least.) He stands before Minister Lees casket one last time, remembering his friend saying that he taught him about the importance of trust and bowing to him as his king. What do you think is better? Not fond of separation endings. Very sad but thoroughly enjoyed the series. At night, So-woon holds Ha Suns compass, remembering two years ago when a pair of palace guards delivered the news that they believed Ha Sun was dead. The prince appear for less than a whole minute, says a couple of pretty obvious statements and I'm supposed to believe he's meant to rule? I can't handle 2 or more at a time and it makes me sad when they compete for the ratings. Youre amazing cuz you even got the queen dowager to agree. Emotional manipulation in the best possible way and it rounds out a highly enjoyable Korean drama. Minister Lee didn't see himself as a hero but more like a tool for his country not good or bad but useful. Or give me a modern hospital with IV's and other life support for people who spend two years in a coma. Then, both Jang and the King could have remained somewhere and tended to their wounds. 1. He only existed to play the King and become the King, at the expense of the King. Your email address will not be published. What was the point? It was mentioned by Ae-young to the queen that she heard that king's poop smells different and we all know why because he was not Yi Heon lol. With a satisfying conclusion and impressive cinematography throughout, this Korean drama makes for quite the impressive showing. A character as significant and prominent as the King, doesnt even have to be on screen for anything that happens to him to be very important to how your plot plays out if you want your plot to make sense. Lord Giseong agrees, saying that a kings job is to approve court discussions and take responsibility for the consequences, not wield power as he pleases, and Ha Sun regards him thoughtfully. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. Likewho took care of him? Not bashing the show, these are just my thoughts. I'm interested to see what's up his sleeve in his forthcoming drama. End of story. That seemed so unnatural. You dont get a medic so learn your own first-aid. Speaking of Haksan- Haksan killed the king. She showed no remorse for him being gone after that point. I liked seeing the leads, the romance was sweet to the point of unbelievable, but what the heck. Hope his next drama also does well. I totally appreciated your comments. And nobody likes him anyway, right? Sorry if I might be nitpicking, but along with Jang's death, I even felt betrayed by So Woon's initial reaction to Ha Sun. if (d.getElementById(id)) return; 1/4 He gives her a gift the knife that she almost used to take her own life when they first met. The ending, although not a disaster, definitely needs to be reworked. In JDJ we are now with the last King of Goryeo, Gongyang. Excellent performance by Kim Sang-kyung. I dont understand why the Queen couldnt have children?!?! version : 'v2.2' // use version 2.2 And thats really poor writing. It felt like I was really grinding my gears when I started watching HAECHI. It wasnt explicitly said, but I believe that once he had gotten revenge on Minister Shin and the queen dowager, he realized that hed been using the throne for his own personal reasons and thats why he abdicated to someone who could truly put the country first. When I was watching HWAJUNG, I had to put it on the back burner a bit more than half-way through, and didn't get back to it for three weeks. I was interested in Moon Lovers, but when I read only bad comments, I searched for synopsis and ending and actually it had so much so much potential that it's a pity it went that way. The internal and external forces driving a wedge between the monarchy and its people seemed overwhelming, and someone with a weak resolve . I thought I would have caught up through at least ep. We learn that the soldiers who arrived just in time were General Kims, Lord Yoos old friend. In sageuks, the best character will always be the one with a twisted past, the one that isn't entirely black or white but has extremely strong values in something, and will do anything to protect those values (i.e. So-woon insists, saying that shes enjoyed hearing about someone she admires. I truly enjoyed the drama's cinematography, particularly the outdoor settings. It was a character with a vision for his country. (Oh, I was forgetting Eunuch Cho. Even more than the king/clown swap, I loved the smaller stories about Ha Suns relationships, both with his existing family and the new one he cultivated in the palace. What happens upon the family's arrival? Prolly will make the beeeest drama with 0 plotholes and AMAZING storyline. I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. (In case you don't know, it's a weekly article we had then to publish the BEST comments of the week. I'm going to miss this drama. Also, I completely agree that the acting, cinematography, and soundtrack were superb. Early on there were comments about the disclaimer at the beginning of each episode of TCC. (Cases in point: TEMPERATURE OF LOVE and BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST. They want to show his loyalty via his death ? No no. In my view, the story went downhill after Yi Heons death because almost nothing that was set up before then had any serious consequences. It's songs were crappy, but the instrumentals hold their ground against even Dae Jang-geum and Arang and the Magistrate instrumentals. So it was @sicarius who broke it. He can only be as abusive or violent or lost or addicted to drugs as his writing allows. Strangely, the gates are wide open and the courtyard empty, so Minister Shin halts the soldiers and looks around suspiciously. And even I would be interested, and was interested, in seeing what this story looks like. Episode 9, titled Couple 31, follows the consequences of the interview, as Charles and Diana finally give in to divorce. Jung Bo-suk, Oh Man-seok, Kim Yeo-jin, and Jung Sung-mo are in it, which makes it very appealing. Did you read my essay? It's taking all my concentration, too. Jang Gwang. 7-8 of HAECHI before today, but no such luck. It was the most interesting part, the relationships he had with Eunuch Jo, the Queen, Minister Lee, Moo Young, Ho Geol. Eunuch Jo asks to come with him, but Ha Sun says he cant because hes recommended him for a promotion, and the new king needs him as much as he did when he first arrived in the palace. 3/4 He explains that he doesnt wish to give the throne to a child of his blood, so hes been watching the officials for a suitable successor, and he thinks Lord Giseong is the best choice. She had nothing to lose and maybe something to gain by ratting him out. Minister Lee : he was really a great character. Ohh man. In fact, I was this close to forgoing this entire essay last night and just shitposting for this recap, like I did for Memories of Alhambra. Prince Jin-pyung is in bad shape from his gut wound, but he tries to act like its nothing when the queen dowager visits him. Finally its time for Ha Sun to go. It's a pity at that time I wasn't on DB, it sounds a so fun experience! Not really. P.S. Or change the writer. I just discovered in Merriam-Webster that the oft used kdrama translated word punk is a synonym for beginner!) He says that if she refuses, hell hang Minister Lees body at the gates for the people to see, and then theyll know that she caused this rebellion without justification. Thinking the faulty thing has zero faults and loving it under THAT impression? Minister Shin says hes already rewarded them to offset the drop in morale, and he asks if she still thinks they need a valid cause for rebellion. However, I find myself not caring so much. 2/4 And I'm very happy for YJG that he finally got a drama worthy of his talents. appId : '127538621120543', I mentioned earlier that it would have given Yeo Jin-goo the possibility to play triple roles; and In January of the Year of the Black Pig, the king suppressed the rebel forces and ruled the nation wisely. He deserves it . I love the show, but they have to redo the ending!!! But it was all real, which made me more disappointed than I thought. Hmm. I am relatively new to historical dramas but I am enjoying them. What can I say. Moo Young should have survived. Here, I'm justwhat is even there to say? The first scene in this episode sets the tone. Hence I've been making an effort to be somewhat detached and not take CROWNED CLOWN too personally. Under entirely different circumstances, namely had I liked this show for more than just the first 8 episodes, this final write up would mostly consist of how utterly ridiculous and pointless that fake out death and time jump was; it is stupid for even the flawed story they ended up telling. Minister Lee. (Oh, right. There's no telling how much faulty impressions you'd get if your 1st sageuk was MLSHR or Hwarang or Moon embracing the Sun, because then you'll have it on high pedestal, comparing the other Sageuks to your 1st one for some time for all the wrong reasons. The Clown : Yeo Jin Gu really acted him very well, showing the subtil evolution from a simple puppet to a real King. So-woon had sobbed that if Ha Suns body wasnt there, he must be alive somewhere. I'm totally mystified over how Ha Sun survived two arrows in the back (let alone managed to extract them by himself). I'm still trying to catch up with HAECHI. A great fit. This shows single and greatest flaw, therefore, is ignoring the consequences of the King as a pre-existing character as determined by the premise of the show itself. You will receive a link to create a new password via email. Hes trapped, and he turns to see Ha Sun facing him, the two of them alone. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, And I almost didnt even watch the reunion scene at the end because I knew exactly how it would play out. I was happy as a clam that Eunuch Jo and Ho-geol survived the rebellion. Nobody found out the King died because the Clown is the King. The Crowned Clown (Episode 16, Finale) Drama: The Crowned Clown (English title) / Man Who Become King (Literal) Orignal name: / Wangyi Doen Namja Director: Kim Hee-Won Writer: Kim Sun-Deok, Shin Ha-Eun Network: tvN Episodes: 16 Release Date: January 7 -- March 4, 2019 It showed his past. js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js"; On his way to meet up with So-woon, Ha Sun senses someone behind him and whirls but whew, its only Moo-young. Was she too pure to have sex? And . The Crowned Clown 2019 | Maturity Rating: TV-14 | 1 Season | Period Pieces Standing in for an unhinged Joseon king, a look-alike clown plays the part but increasingly becomes devoted to protecting the throne and the people. All I ever wanted for Ha Sun and So-woon was for them to live a normal life like normal people, and they got exactly what they deserved each other. Also the king wasn't allowed to read his own records in case he'd changed it. I do n't comment in a timely fashion the expense of the Lord Sam. 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